Re: >H The end of the history of the ends of history.

["Waldemar Ingdahl" <wingdahl@hotmail.com>]

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> >Rather because of the modernist thought of "the completition of history", 
>a
> >kind of "year zero" were history stops and never starts again to show the
> >totality of the ideology.
> >Waldemar Ingdahl
>
>Correct, Waldemar!

Uh oh! I'm noticing that I'm becoming more and more of a bardroid;-)

>The idea of an end to history; a completion of the correct ideological
>ambition, begins with Hegel. To Hegel something equivalent to a perfect
>civil society, the liberalist utopia, was achievable and would constitute
>"an end to history".

Hmm, rather thought that Hegel tried to protect the Prussian royals with his 
philosophical works, but OK for the rest of the argument.

Marx, a post-hegelian, assumed the communist utopia
>would constitute this end of history. Fukuyama plays with this concept in
>his book with this title and is, for obvious reasons, far more Hegelian 
>than
>Marxian; Hegel was right and Marx was wrong.

I don't necessarily think that our present cultural climate is that aware of 
the origin of its basic ideas. Most of these thoughts that have been 
integrated into the explanations of the current hegemony are really old 
conservative ideas. No offense Alexander, but a left based on Nietzsche in 
the current mainstream seems rather far fetched, look at the Spy Bar 
communist ideology (arrgh, these are bardisms, I'm turning into a bardroid!)

Which Jacques Derrida quite
>elegantly slaughters in his book 'Spectres Of Marx' a few years later (for 
>a
>fair dose of gnostic neo-marxism Derrida is a fun read). Of course this is
>all wordplay. There is no history, just an infinite number of histories, 
>and
>they begin and end as its inventors, simple human beings, so wish. So I
>assume this is the end of the history of the ends of history.
>Cheers
>/Alexander Bard

Exactly, the Big Narrative is dead (finally!). But that doesn't mean that we 
cannot see some trends in it, I think it is more fruitful to acknowledge 
that history has no inherent meaning other than that we choose to give it 
(for instance using parallels and seeing developments)

Sincerely,
Ingdahl

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